Elden Ring Drop Rate CalculatorDiscovery Optimization & Item Farming Statistics
This calculator helps you determine the effective drop rate, expected farming time, and probability milestones for obtaining items in Elden Ring based on your Discovery stat. Whether you're farming for ultra-rare weapons like Magma Blade (0.25% drop rate), completing armor sets from Banished Knights, or optimizing your Arcane build for efficient material farming, understanding how Discovery scales with drop rates is essential for planning extended farming sessions. Our calculator models the linear Discovery scaling formula and provides accurate expected kill counts based on community-tested base drop rates.
Discovery is Elden Ring's hidden stat that directly multiplies item drop rates. Base Discovery is 100 (no bonus), with each point of Arcane adding approximately 1 Discovery. Equipment bonuses from Silver Scarab Talisman (+75 Discovery), Silver Tear Mask (+8 Arcane), and Albinauric Mask (+4 Arcane) stack additively, allowing maximum practical Discovery of ~282-350 depending on your Arcane level. At base Discovery (100), a 1% drop rate item requires an average of 100 kills. At 300 Discovery, effective drop rate becomes 3%, reducing expected kills to just 33—a 67% reduction in farming time. This dramatic efficiency gain makes Discovery optimization crucial for rare item farming, especially for items with base drop rates below 1%.
Data Snapshot – Discovery Farming Log
Our Discovery math is backed by a farming journal saved at data/elden-ring/drop-log.csv. It logs enemy type, target item, Discovery total, effective drop rate, kill counts, and whether the item dropped. The sample below is the same dataset we used to calibrate the calculator.
date,enemy,item,baseRate,discovery,effectiveRate,kills,dropped,notes 2025-04-04,Banished Knight,Chest Armor,0.05,230,0.115,9,true,"Silver Scarab + Arcane 55" 2025-04-04,Banished Knight,Gauntlets,0.05,230,0.115,17,false,"Secondary target" 2025-04-05,Albinauric,Silver Tear Mask,0.06,282,0.169,6,true,"New Game+" 2025-04-05,Winged Dame,Antspur Rapier,0.02,210,0.042,48,false,"No Scarab equipped" 2025-04-06,Fire Prelate,Fire Prelate Armor,0.02,250,0.05,31,true,"Beast Champion rune farm"
Full exports (with Arcane builds and rune routes) live in the repo and the Airtable referenced on Methodology, so anyone can reproduce the Discovery curve we publish.
Understanding Elden Ring Discovery Stat & Drop Rate Mechanics
How Discovery Scales with Arcane & Equipment
Discovery scaling in Elden Ring is linear and straightforward. Your total Discovery equals 100 (base) + Arcane level + equipment bonuses. A character with 50 Arcane and Silver Scarab Talisman has 100 + 50 + 75 = 225 Discovery. This translates to a 2.25x multiplier on all base drop rates (225 / 100 = 2.25). For a 1% base drop rate item, effective drop rate becomes 2.25%. Expected kills drops from 100 to 44—a significant time savings. Our calculator's Discovery build tool lets you input Arcane level and toggle equipment to instantly see your total Discovery and its impact on farming efficiency.
Arcane Soft Caps & Leveling Strategy
Arcane has soft caps at 20 (70% scaling), 50 (40% scaling), and 80 (20% scaling), affecting damage and status buildup efficiency. However, Discovery scaling is completely linear—each Arcane point from 1 to 99 adds exactly 1 Discovery regardless of soft caps. For pure farming builds, leveling Arcane to 99 maximizes Discovery. Hybrid builds can stop at 50-60 Arcane for strong Discovery (225-235 with Silver Scarab) while maintaining attribute points for Vigor, Endurance, and damage stats. A 50 Arcane build with Silver Scarab achieves 225 Discovery, while 99 Arcane reaches 274 Discovery—only a 22% improvement despite 49 extra stat points.
Silver Scarab Talisman: +75 Discovery Boost
Silver Scarab is the single most impactful Discovery item in Elden Ring. Found in the Abandoned Cave in Consecrated Snowfield (defeat multiple Cleanrot Knights), this talisman adds 75 Discovery—equivalent to 75 levels of Arcane. For a character with 30 Arcane, equipping Silver Scarab increases Discovery from 130 to 205 (57% improvement). This talisman is essential for any farming session. Combined with high Arcane investment, it enables 3-4x drop rate multipliers compared to base stats, transforming 8-hour ultra-rare farms into 2-3 hour sessions.
Equipment Stacking: Masks & Talismans
Silver Tear Mask (+8 Arcane) and Albinauric Mask (+4 Arcane) occupy the helmet slot and cannot be worn simultaneously. Silver Tear Mask is generally preferred for its higher bonus. These masks stack with Silver Scarab (talisman slot), creating powerful farming builds: 99 Arcane + Silver Scarab + Silver Tear Mask = 99 + 75 + 8 + 100 = 282 Discovery (2.82x multiplier). For 0.25% base drops (Magma Blade), this increases effective rate to 0.705%, reducing expected kills from 400 to 142—a 65% time savings worth the stat investment.
Item Rarity Tiers & Base Drop Rates
Elden Ring doesn't publish official drop rates. Community testing through tens of thousands of documented kills has established approximate base rates. Very Common items (basic smithing stones) drop at ~8%. Common items (standard enemy weapons) range from 2-4%. Rare items (unique weapons like Banished Knight Greatsword) are ~0.5-1%. Ultra Rare items (Magma Blade, Noble's Slender Sword) drop at 0.25-0.5%. Our calculator includes presets for these tiers, but you can input custom rates from wikis like Fextralife or Elden Ring Wiki based on the specific item you're farming.
Magma Blade: The Notorious 0.25% Drop
Magma Blade, dropped by Man-Serpents in Volcano Manor, is infamous as one of Elden Ring's rarest items. Community aggregated data from over 20,000 documented kills estimates a 0.25% base drop rate (1 in 400 kills). At base Discovery (100), players average 400 kills—at 40-60 kills/hour farming rates, this translates to 6-10 hours. With optimized Discovery (282+), expected kills drop to ~142 (2-4 hours). This item exemplifies why Discovery optimization matters: a 99 Arcane + Silver Scarab build cuts farming time by nearly 70% compared to base stats.
Community Data Sources & Verification
Use community wikis like Fextralife and r/Eldenring for base drop rate data. Reliable estimates require 1,000+ kill samples. Individual experiences vary wildly due to variance—a player obtaining Magma Blade on kill #10 doesn't mean 10% drop rate. Always cross-reference multiple sources and prioritize data with documented sample sizes. Input conservative (lower) drop rates into the calculator for pessimistic time estimates, reducing disappointment from bad RNG.
Expected Value and Probability Distributions
Drop rates follow a geometric distribution—each kill is an independent trial with fixed success probability. Expected attempts equals 1/p where p is drop probability (as decimal). For 1% drop rate (p = 0.01), expected attempts = 1 / 0.01 = 100 kills. However, geometric distributions have high variance at low probabilities. Standard deviation for 1% drop is 99 kills, meaning 68% of players will obtain the item between 1 and 199 kills, with 16% requiring 200+ kills. Understanding variance prevents frustration during unlucky streaks—you're not "cursed," just experiencing normal statistical variation.
Probability Milestones: 50%, 90%, 99%
Our calculator shows kills required for 50%, 90%, and 99% cumulative success probability. For 1% drop rate: 50% chance requires 69 kills, 90% requires 230 kills, 99% requires 459 kills. These milestones use the formula n = ln(1-P) / ln(1-p). The 50% milestone (median) is lower than expected value (100 kills) because the geometric distribution is right-skewed—half of players will succeed before the average, but extreme outliers pull the mean higher than the median.
Variance & Individual Results
Expected values are averages across thousands of trials—your personal experience will differ. For rare items (<1% drop), actual results can easily be 50-200% of expected value. Obtaining Magma Blade on kill #50 (expected: 400) or requiring 800 kills are both plausible outcomes within 2 standard deviations. Maintain patience during farming and understand that "bad luck" streaks are statistically normal. Our calculator helps set realistic expectations and plan inventory/stamina for extended sessions.
Sample Size & Regression to the Mean
Over large samples (farming multiple items), results converge toward expected values. A player farming 10 different 1% items will total ~1,000 kills (10 × 100), with individual items ranging from 30 to 300 kills but aggregate aligning with expectations. This is regression to the mean. Single-item farms have high variance; multi-item farms average out. Use our calculator to estimate total farming time across multiple target items for accurate session planning.
Optimal Farming Builds & Discovery Investment Strategy
Pure Arcane Farming Build (99 Arcane + Full Discovery Equipment)
Maximum Discovery build: 99 Arcane, Silver Scarab Talisman, Silver Tear Mask. Total Discovery: 99 + 75 + 8 + 100 = 282 (2.82x multiplier). This build maximizes drop rate efficiency for dedicated farming sessions. Weapon choice: Reduvia (Arcane scaling dagger) or Rivers of Blood (Arcane/Dex katana) for killing efficiency. Stats: 40 Vigor (survivability), 15-20 Endurance, 99 Arcane, minimal Strength/Dex (weapon requirements only). This build sacrifices combat performance for farming speed, ideal for players with multiple characters or post-game farming.
Hybrid Combat-Farming Build (50-60 Arcane + Balanced Stats)
Balanced approach: 50-60 Arcane, Silver Scarab Talisman. Discovery: 225-235 (2.25-2.35x multiplier). Reserve attribute points for 60 Vigor, 25-30 Endurance, and weapon stat requirements (Strength/Dex). This build provides 80% of max Discovery efficiency while maintaining combat viability for general gameplay. Ideal for players farming while progressing through content or using their main character. The 18% efficiency loss (282 vs 235 Discovery) translates to ~22% longer farming time—acceptable trade-off for playability.
Respec Strategy: Larval Tears & Build Switching
Larval Tears (found throughout the game) allow stat respeccing at Rennala in Liurnia. Strategic players respec to pure Arcane builds before extended farming sessions, then respec back to combat builds afterward. A single Larval Tear costs one respec cycle (to farming build and back). For ultra-rare items requiring 5+ hours of farming, the Discovery boost from 60→99 Arcane saves 1-2 hours—well worth a Larval Tear. Use our calculator to compare farming times at different Arcane levels to decide if respeccing is worthwhile.
Equipment Slot Opportunity Cost
Silver Scarab occupies a talisman slot (typically used for Soreseal, Dragoncrest Shield, or offensive talismans). Silver Tear Mask replaces combat helmets (often used for set bonuses or specific resistances). During farming, these opportunity costs are irrelevant—enemy difficulty in farming locations is low. However, for players farming in dangerous areas (e.g., Consecrated Snowfield Albinaurics), maintaining one defensive talisman might prevent deaths that waste time. Balance Discovery optimization with survivability to maintain kill efficiency.
Elden Ring Drop Rate Calculator
Calculate effective drop rates with Discovery scaling and expected farming time.
Item & Discovery Configuration
Results
Probability Milestones
Discovery Impact Analysis
| Discovery | Effective Rate | Avg. Kills (1 item) | Time Saved |
|---|---|---|---|
| 100 | 1.00% | 100.0 | 0 min |
| 150 | 1.50% | 66.7 | 33 min |
| 200 | 2.00% | 50.0 | 50 min |
| 250 | 2.50% | 40.0 | 60 min |
| 300 | 3.00% | 33.3 | 67 min |
| 350 | 3.50% | 28.6 | 71 min |
Elden Ring Drop Rate Calculation: Methodology & Practical Guide
Assumptions
Formula & Pseudocode
Total Discovery:
Discovery = 100 + Arcane + equipment_bonusesBase Discovery is 100. Each Arcane level adds 1 Discovery. Silver Scarab adds 75 Discovery directly. Silver Tear Mask adds 8 Arcane (converted to 8 Discovery). Example: 50 Arcane + Silver Scarab = 100 + 50 + 75 = 225 Discovery. Learn more in our Discovery stat guide.
Effective Drop Rate:
effective_rate = base_rate × (Discovery / 100)Discovery directly multiplies base drop rate. At 200 Discovery, a 1% base rate becomes 2% (1% × 2.0). At 300 Discovery, it becomes 3% (1% × 3.0). This linear scaling means doubling Discovery doubles your drop rate. Capped at 100% maximum effective rate for edge cases.
Expected Attempts (Geometric Distribution):
E[attempts] = 1 / (effective_rate / 100)Expected value of geometric distribution = 1/p where p is success probability. For 2% effective drop rate: E[attempts] = 1 / 0.02 = 50 kills. This is the average across thousands of trials. See our geometric distribution guide for variance details.
Probability Milestone (Cumulative):
n = ln(1 - P) / ln(1 - p)Calculates attempts needed for X% cumulative success probability. P = target probability (e.g., 0.90 for 90%), p = effective drop rate (decimal). For 1% drop rate and 90% success: n = ln(0.10) / ln(0.99) ≈ 230 attempts. This formula accounts for cumulative probability across multiple independent trials.
Drop Rate Simulation Algorithm
function calculateDropRate(baseRate, discovery, quantity):// Calculate Discovery multipliermultiplier = discovery / 100// Calculate effective drop rateeffectiveRate = min(baseRate × multiplier, 100)probability = effectiveRate / 100// Calculate expected attempts for 1 itemexpectedAttempts = 1 / probability// Scale for desired quantitytotalExpectedAttempts = expectedAttempts × quantity// Calculate probability milestonesprob50 = ceil(ln(0.50) / ln(1 - probability))prob90 = ceil(ln(0.10) / ln(1 - probability))prob99 = ceil(ln(0.01) / ln(1 - probability))return {effectiveRate, expectedAttempts, prob50, prob90, prob99}
Real Scenario: Farming Magma Blade (0.25% Base Drop Rate)
Scenario:
Step 1: Calculate Total Discovery
Step 2: Calculate Effective Drop Rate
Step 3: Calculate Expected Attempts
Step 4: Calculate Farming Time Estimate
Step 5: Calculate Probability Milestones
Result:
Edge Cases
Very High Discovery Can Push Common Items to Near-Guaranteed Drops
Base Drop Rate Uncertainty Affects Accuracy
Variance Creates Wide Outcome Ranges for Rare Items
Farming Rate Varies by Enemy Type & Location
Common Mistakes to Avoid
Forgetting to equip Silver Scarab Talisman during farming
Correct approach:
Using expected value as guaranteed kill count
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Not tracking kills during farming sessions
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Farming with insufficient Arcane investment for Discovery scaling
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
How does Discovery affect drop rates in Elden Ring?
Discovery directly multiplies item drop rates. Base Discovery is 100 (no bonus). Each point of Arcane adds 1 Discovery. Equipment like Silver Scarab (+75) and Silver Tear Mask (+8 Arcane) stack additively. Total Discovery of 200 doubles drop rates (2x multiplier), 300 triples them (3x multiplier). For a 1% base drop rate item at 250 Discovery, effective rate becomes 2.5%, reducing expected kills from 100 to 40.
What is the best Arcane level for farming rare items?
For ultra-rare items (base drop <0.5% like Magma Blade), 99 Arcane maximizes Discovery efficiency. For rare items (0.5-2%), 50-60 Arcane provides strong Discovery (225-235 with Silver Scarab) without sacrificing too many stat points. For common items (2-8%), even 30-40 Arcane with Silver Scarab is sufficient. Use our calculator to compare farming times at different Arcane levels—if the time savings exceed 1-2 hours, consider respeccing to higher Arcane.
Should I always use Silver Scarab Talisman when farming?
Yes, absolutely. Silver Scarab provides +75 Discovery, often doubling your effective drop rate. For a 50 Arcane build, it increases Discovery from 150 to 225 (50% improvement). This can cut farming time in half for rare items. There's no scenario where farming without Silver Scarab is more efficient unless you literally don't have access to it yet (Consecrated Snowfield required). Always equip Silver Scarab for any farming session lasting more than 10 minutes.
How accurate is this calculator compared to actual farming results?
The calculator's Discovery scaling formula is verified through community testing and is highly accurate. However, base drop rates are community-estimated (not official), potentially ±20-30% off. Expected values are statistically accurate for large samples but individual results vary widely due to variance. You might obtain an item in half the expected kills (lucky) or double (unlucky)—both are normal. Over many items, results average out to match calculator predictions within 10-15%.
Why am I not getting drops even after expected kill count?
Expected value is an average, not a guarantee. For rare items, 50% of players will require more than the expected number of kills. Check the 90% probability milestone in the calculator—if you haven't exceeded that, you're experiencing normal variance. Verify Silver Scarab is equipped and you're farming the correct enemy type. If you exceed the 99% milestone (highly unlikely), the base drop rate data might be incorrect or the enemy variant doesn't drop the item.
What is the Magma Blade drop rate and how long does it take to farm?
Magma Blade has an estimated 0.25% base drop rate from Man-Serpents in Volcano Manor (community-tested across 20,000+ kills). At base Discovery (100), expect ~400 kills (8-10 hours at 40-50 kills/hour). With optimized Discovery (99 Arcane + Silver Scarab + Silver Tear Mask = 282 Discovery), expect ~142 kills (2.5-3 hours). This is one of Elden Ring's rarest items—Discovery optimization is essential. Check our calculator's Magma Blade example for detailed breakdown.
Can I farm multiple items simultaneously for better time efficiency?
Yes, if enemies drop multiple desired items. For example, Banished Knights drop entire armor set (helm, chest, gauntlets, greaves) plus weapons. Each piece has independent drop rates—farming for full set means you'll obtain at least one piece relatively quickly, maintaining motivation. Use our calculator to model each item separately, then aggregate total expected time. This approach leverages variance: even if one item takes 2x expected kills, others might drop early, balancing your overall farm.
Changelog
- Launched Elden Ring Drop Rate Calculator with Discovery optimization
- Item rarity presets: Very Common, Common, Uncommon, Rare, Very Rare, Ultra Rare
- Discovery build calculator: Arcane level + Silver Scarab + helmet bonuses
- Probability milestone calculations: 50%, 90%, 99% success chance
- Discovery impact comparison table (100-350 Discovery range)
- Farming time estimation based on kills per hour input
- Share functionality to save and share configurations via URL
Related Reading
Glossary: Discovery Stat
Learn how Discovery stat works in Elden Ring and how it scales with Arcane and equipment bonuses.
Glossary: Expected Value (EV)
Understand statistical averages and why individual farming results vary from expected values.
Glossary: Geometric Distribution
Deep dive into the probability math behind drop rates and variance calculations.
Elden Ring Discovery Optimization Guide
Comprehensive guide to building optimal farming characters with Arcane scaling and equipment.
Best Farming Locations & Routes
Detailed farming routes for rare items including Magma Blade, Banished Knight set, and Noble's Slender Sword.
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